It's given to very few performers to be the undisputed number one in the history of their sport but that is the position occupied by Kilkenny's Angela Downey in camogie.
You can't even have the semblance of a debate about this. She was a prodigy from the word go, making her county senior debut at the age of 13 and winning her first All-Ireland senior medal when she was 17.
Eleven more were to follow in a career which spanned 25 years and it says a lot about the extraordinary influence Downey exerted that Kilkenny had not won an All-Ireland before she arrived on the team and have not won one since her retirement.
There was a nice symmetry to Downey's career, she scored 2-3 against Wexford when winning her first final in 1977 and the same tally against Galway when winning her last one in 1994.
In between, there was a host of other big scores as Kilkenny won seven in a row between 1985 and 1991. There was just no stopping her.