For the present day Manchester City player, not winning a game is a disaster, and a run of two games without a win is a full-blown crisis.
Things were a lot different, and expectations were a lot lower, when Dubliner Willo Flood broke into the City first team 16 years ago.
Flood, now 35 and based in Scotland where he heads up his own player agency, made 14 Premier League appearances for City, between September 2004 and May 2006: Four draws and 10 defeats.
"Fourteen without a win, thanks for reminding me, that will wreck my head now you've told me that, I didn't know there wasn't even one win in there," he jokes. "But we drew at Old Trafford so that's like a win for us then.
"It's a totally different club today, compared to the one I played for, for us being in the top 10 was an achievement.
"I played with (Nicolas) Anelka, (Robbie) Fowler, David James. We had good players, the quality of player was not the problem but the squad wasn't that big and we couldn't compete with the big boys.
Willo Flood in 2005. Photo: Brendan Moran / Sportsfile
"But now everyone else is trying to compete with City and it's good to see them doing well."
Cherry Orchard lad Flood was one of the stand-out players in his age group in the Dublin schoolboy scene and he had many suitors.
"When I was going to England at 16, I had interest from a lot of English clubs but I chose Man City because they had a reputation for giving young players a chance, I felt I'd get to play more games there. My thought process was not to play in the Premier League, my plan was to sign for a club who would give me a chance and that's what happened," he says.
City's large Irish crop were naturally friends, but not on the field, City fostering a competitive edge: Flood recalls competing with Glenn Whelan when City's U-17s and U-19s would clash. "Me and Whelo would kick utter lumps out of each other for 90 minutes, but we were best mates," he laughs.
He was just 18 when he made his first team debut for City, in a European tie against Welsh outfit TNS, with fellow Dubliner Whelan for company, in August 2003, a dead rubber after a 5-0 first-leg win, but was then loaned out.
"I went on loan to Rochdale but, being honest, I was poor, I didn't play well, it was a big test, playing men's football for a team fighting relegation, I knew there I had a long way to go," he says.
"I went back to City for pre-season for 2004/'05 but I'd been in Dublin over the summer where I'd worked really hard, I had a good pre-season and I got my opportunity."
Kevin Keegan gave Flood a start in a League Cup tie at home to Barnsley where he scored in a 7-1 win, and he had his manager's attention. Four days later he had his Premier League debut, in September 2004, a second-half sub in a 1-0 loss at home to Arsenal.
"I came on again away to Newcastle, I did ok there even though we got beat 4-3," he recalls.
"I got my first Premier League goal then, in a 1-1 draw at home to Norwich, that was a good day.
"My first start in the Premier League, I scored and won Man of The Match. So your first thought is, this is great but then you realise you still have a long, long way to go."
A week after the Norwich goal came another step up, Old Trafford in the Manchester derby, Flood up against Roy Keane in the middle of the park.
"Roy smashed me in that game, and I was booked," he says,
"I was a young lad and a bit immature so I was giving it loads in the local press before the derby.
"And Roy absolutely smashed me after 10 minutes.
"Roy never said anything to me, he just smashed into me when the ball was there. There was nothing malicious about it, it was just Roy Keane stamping his authority on the game as he did in every game he played.
"But we grinded out a 0-0, which was a good result for us at the time. Back then we were a middle of the road Premier League club, they were champions around that time, they had unbelievable players."
Flood says he asked Keane for his jersey after the derby but the United captain disappeared.
"In fairness, their kitman came to our dressing room to give me the shirt," says Flood.
"Roy was one of my heroes, one of the best players Ireland has ever had, and it was great for me to go up against him in a derby.
"It was a nice touch from Roy, we'd grinded out a 0-0 draw at Old Trafford so I am sure they, and Roy, were pissed off with us. But he still got the shirt to me."
Flood would make five more Premier League appearances that season, two draws (Blackburn and Arsenal) and three losses.
The next season (2005/'06) was a step backwards for Flood who was (literally) sent to Coventry, on loan, and had two serious injuries.
At the end of the season he was back in the City side, five Premier League games (four as sub) and five defeats. But he knew City was no longer the place for him.
"I started away to Chelsea (March 2006) and even though we lost, the manager said I'd done really well," he says. "But for the next game, Middlesbrough at home, I was only on the bench and then I knew it was time I had to leave and earn my stripes in the game, play week in week out.
"I see players today who are 22 or 23 and have played hardly any football. I think I was 21 when I made that realisation, that I needed to get out of City if I wanted to have a career. I needed to be somewhere I could play 30 games a season, not settle for five minutes here and 10 minutes there."
A move to Cardiff City in 2006 didn't work out and while he'd return to England for a spell with Middlesbrough (2010/'11) he had his best spells in Scotland, with Dundee United and Aberdeen, though he admits that a mid-season move to Celtic, in January 2009, was a mistake.
His one regret was the lack of international recognition.
"I look at some of the players who got called up and I think, I should have got one cap at least," he says.
"At City, and Celtic, there were a few occasions when it was mentioned. I played underage with Ireland, I captained my country underage, I played a lot of games in that green jersey. But I'd swap them all for just one senior cap."
After a move, from a coaching role at Dunfermline, to Bali, to play for a club there in 2018, was halted due to red tape, Flood decided to quit playing and became an agent, talents like Luke McNally (St Pat's) are on his books.
He stresses to them to prioritise first team football over earnings.