'Boxers can learn so much from Gavin's dubs'
If Ireland win a glut of boxing medals at the next Olympics, the nation may owe a debt of gratitude to Dublin football manager Jim Gavin.
Irish boxing's high performance director Bernard Dunne is part of the Dubs' backroom team and, while he clearly provides input - he is reluctant to provide details - he is absorbing lessons from Gavin's environment to take back to his own discipline.
"Very much so," he says. "I can take stuff from what Jim has done - what makes Dublin the machine they are.
"What strikes me most is how much all the players really enjoy their football. When you enjoy what you do, you are going to do whatever it takes to be the best."
Dunne is unsure whether he will continue with the footballers beyond this season, saying: "We'll see how next week goes."
"Boxing is my priority," he explains. "Once it doesn't interfere with my priority, I'll help. This is my job. But I love doing both."