Aidan O'Brien last year came the closest he has ever done to winning the Prix du Jockey Club with runner-up Highland Reel.
At Chantilly tomorrow, he relies on the Ryan Moore-ridden Bravery, with Seamie Heffernan aboard Black Sea.
You can never write off O'Brien, but it's hard to make a strong case for either horse securing him a first French Derby.
It might be worth taking a chance on Robin Of Navan prevailing for Harry Dunlop and Tony Piccone.
Over this 10-furlong trip at Saint-cloud in November, Robin Of Navan slammed the Derby-bound Cloth Of Stars to give his Lambourn trainer a first Group One victory in the Criterium.
Achieved on very soft ground, that was his fourth win in five starts, and a penchant for mud will be a serious attribute at a sodden Chantilly.
On his sole outing this year at Saint-cloud, Robin Of Navan tired late on when second to a race-fit Cloth Of Stars. He should come on for that, so he looks overpriced at odds of 10/1.