Eating well is not about diets, it's all about balance, according to the authors of a new book
Lily Simpson and Rob Hobson are the best advert for their new cookbook, The Detox Kitchen Bible, arriving for our interview fresh-faced and sparkly eyed. But they're not meeting me to preach about going wheat, dairy and sugar-free: they're hoping to share the message that cutting down on those foods just 80pc of the time will give you more energy - and help you to live healthily without the need for crash diets.
"Our detox is not as you'd imagine, it's not a strict regime, it's a lifestyle change," says Lily, who's multitasking as she speaks, breastfeeding her six-month-old son Finley and sipping on a hot chocolate ("half milk, half water").
"We're saying, 'If you eat really well 80pc of the time, then 20pc of the time you can go out and have some drinks, indulge and have whatever you want'. Once you understand that and listen to your body, you don't need to worry, because you know what to cook that makes you feel good. It's really important that people become connected again with what they're eating."
The book is split roughly in two parts, with delicious, healthy recipes from Simpson making up the first half, which all come with a list of the health conditions they can be useful for, and the second part is nutrition advice from Hobson, with suggested detox plans designed to help your heart, bones, digestive system, mind, weight and immunity, among other things.
Nutritionist Hobson says the best approach is to embrace healthy eating as a whole lifestyle, rather than a diet, and go slowly.
"The way that people end up not doing anything is they just try and do it all at once. Take small steps. Take one recipe a night and start with cooking something fresh," he says. "If you're eating lots of sugar, don't give it up straight away, just eat one biscuit instead of two.
"We're not telling anyone to do anything we don't do. I like a glass of wine in the evenings, but I know that most of the time, my food is spot on; I exercise, I try and get as much sleep as I can. You've got to try and find a balance."
Simpson is all about the balance, too. "I eat butter on toast for breakfast, I have a really filling lunch and a healthy dinner and then I probably have a glass of wine and a chocolate, so it's kind of that balance," she explains.
Simpson, who set up the London-based meal delivery service Detox Kitchen (detoxkitchen.co.uk) with Hobson three years ago, whose fans include Elle McPherson and Sophie Dahl, knows from her own experience just how much what she eats impacts on how she feels - and looks.
Having grown up eating home-cooked meals, she let her healthy habits slide when she moved away from home. "When I moved to London, I got IBS and I had stomach ulcers, which played havoc with my skin," she recalls. "It was really when I started understanding that very strong link between food and how you feel that things started to change.
"Beetroot makes my stomach feel dodgy because it triggers my IBS, so I tried to cut down and not eat as much. And if I have a breakout on my skin, I know exactly what to do. I totally cut out dairy and I try and reduce the amount of sugar in my diet.
"As soon as I start eating well again, I can think straight and feel less foggy, but a lot of people don't understand how great they can feel just by eating good food."
Sugar has been demonised recently, but Hobson believes it's "not bad" in small quantities - and make sure you enjoy it while you're eating it.
"I say to clients, if you're going to have some sugar, don't do that thing where you give yourself a tiny little bit of cake and keep going back into the fridge and eating it really quickly.
"Take a piece, put it on a plate, sit down with it, enjoy it, and then you're done. I had a client who had to put the rest of the cake and the biscuits in the bin and put washing-up liquid on them so she couldn't go back to them.
"Some of the unhealthiest people I've seen are walking around 'health food' shops. They follow really strict diets, they've eradicated everything, they're living on supplements, they look so tired, they've just got it wrong."
* 'The Detox Kitchen Bible' by Lily Simpson and Rob Hobson (photography by Keiko Oikawa) is published in hardback by Bloomsbury, Available now
Makes 12 frittatas to serve 4
1 large red onion
2 garlic cloves
2 red peppers, seeded
1 ear of sweetcorn (corn on the cob), husks and silk removed
1 sprig of fresh thyme, leaves picked
100ml rice milk
Salt and pepper
Snipped fresh chives or micro rocket, to garnish
1. Preheat your oven to 200C/fan 180C/gas 6. Lightly oil a non-stick 12-hole muffin tin.
2. Finely dice the onion, garlic, red peppers and courgette and place in a large bowl.
3. Now cut the sweetcorn kernels from the cob. The easiest way to do this is to hold the cob at one end, upright at an angle, with the other end in the centre of a kitchen towel on your work surface, and then run a knife down the cob to remove the kernels. Do this all the way round. Discard the cob and tip the sweetcorn kernels into the bowl.
4. Add the thyme leaves to the vegetables and season with salt and pepper. Spoon the mixture into the holes in the muffin tin, distributing the vegetables equally. Place in the heated oven and cook for 12 minutes.
5. Meanwhile, crack the eggs into a large jug or bowl. Add the rice milk and a pinch of salt and whisk until well mixed.
6. Remove the tin from the oven and set it on a heatproof surface. Pour the egg mixture over the vegetables so that each hole is three-quarters full. Bake for a further six minutes until the egg is completely set.
7. The mini frittatas should fall out of the holes easily. Place them on a large plate, garnish with chives or micro rocket and serve.
1 butternut squash
1tsp crushed dried chilli
1 red onion, finely sliced
600ml vegetable stock
200ml coconut milk
Salt and pepper
1. Preheat your oven to 180C/fan 160C/gas 4. Line a baking tray with greaseproof paper.
2. Peel the butternut squash and cut it lengthways in half. Scoop out the seeds and fibres, then cut the flesh into 2.5cm pieces. Spread the pieces on the baking tray and roast for 15 minutes.
3. Remove the tray from the oven and scatter the chilli and onion over the pieces of squash. Roast for a further 10 minutes. Remove from the oven and allow to cool for a few minutes.
4. Pour the stock into a medium saucepan and bring to the boil, then turn the heat to low. Stir in the coconut milk and warm for two minutes. Remove from the heat.
5. Put the squash, onions and chilli in a blender and add the coconut milk/stock. Blitz until smooth, then season to taste. Serve hot.
2 skinless, boneless chicken breasts, about 150g each
2 sprigs of fresh thyme
2 lemon slices
2 garlic cloves, gently crushed with the skin on
100g baby spinach leaves
A handful of fresh chives, roughly chopped
A handful of fresh flat-leaf parsley
4 dried apricots, roughly cut into strips
Juice of 1 lemon
1tbsp rapeseed oil
1tsp flaked sea salt
A pinch of cracked black pepper
1. Preheat your oven to 200C/fan 180C/gas 6.
2. Place the chicken breasts on a baking tray and set a sprig of thyme, slice of lemon and garlic clove on each breast. Roast in the heated oven for about 20 minutes until thoroughly cooked. Allow to cool.
3. Put the quinoa in a medium-sized pan and cover with three times its volume of cold water. Set on a high heat and bring to the boil. Once boiling, season the water with salt and continue to boil for six to eight minutes, until just tender. Drain in a sieve and rinse under cold water until cool. Leave to one side to drain.
4. Bring a small pan of water to the boil. Drop in the mangetout and cook for no longer than two minutes; drain and rinse under cold water until cool.
5. Mix together the remaining ingredients in a bowl, then fold in the quinoa and mangetout.
6. Cut the chicken into strips and mix through the salad. Serve in a large sharing bowl.
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