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Becky Watts trial: Accused killer Nathan Matthews 'watched porn daily', court told

Rod Minchin and Claire Hayhurst

Published 28/10/2015 | 15:23

Becky Watts
Becky Watts

The man accused of murdering Becky Watts in a sexually motivated kidnap plot with his girlfriend watched pornography almost daily, a court has heard.

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Nathan Matthews, 28, and Shauna Hoare, 21, are accused of killing the 16-year-old on February 19.

Matthews was giving evidence for a second day at Bristol Crown Court, where prosecutors allege that he and Hoare targeted his stepsister due to their shared unnatural interest in petite teenage girls.

They say they murdered Becky in her bedroom at her family home in Crown Hill, Bristol, before driving her body to their home in Cotton Mill Lane, Barton Hill.

Court artist sketch by Elizabeth Cook of Nathan Matthews crying in the dock as Adam Vaitilingam QC (left) looks on at Bristol Crown Court, as he told the jury he did not intend to murder his stepsister Becky Watts. Photo: Elizabeth Cook/PA Wire
Court artist sketch by Elizabeth Cook of Nathan Matthews crying in the dock as Adam Vaitilingam QC (left) looks on at Bristol Crown Court, as he told the jury he did not intend to murder his stepsister Becky Watts. Photo: Elizabeth Cook/PA Wire

They say the couple then dismembered Becky in the bath of the terraced property using a circular saw, before packing her body parts in bags, cling film and tape.

These were discovered in suitcases, bags and a blue box in a garden shed in Barton Court - 80 metres from their home - in the early hours of March 3.

Matthews was asked whether he had an interest in pornography and agreed that he did, saying it started when he was younger.

"It was magazines, then it was downloading it and then it was watching videos on the internet," he told the court.

Rebecca Watts,16, known as Becky
Rebecca Watts,16, known as Becky
A candle burns besides a photograph of Becky Watts at St Ambrose Church, as her stepbrother Nathan Matthews was been charged with her murder. Photo: Matt Cardy/Getty Images

"There are ridiculous amounts of it on there and there are thousands of new movies uploaded there every hour."

Adam Vaitilingam QC, defending, asked his client how often he looked at pornography and he replied: "Definitely every week but I would say it could be every day.

"As an average I would say it would be just under every day - at least every two days."

Matthews insisted that girlfriend Hoare did not share his interest in pornography.

Matthews, of Hazelbury Drive, Warmley, South Gloucestershire, denies murder and conspiracy to kidnap.

He admits killing Becky, perverting the course of justice, preventing the burial of a corpse and possessing a prohibited weapon.

Shauna Hoare being interviewed by police
Shauna Hoare being interviewed by police

Hoare, of Cotton Mill Lane, Bristol, denies murder, conspiracy to kidnap, perverting the course of justice, preventing burial of a corpse and possessing a prohibited weapon.

The residents of the Barton Court property, Karl Demetrius, 30, and his partner Jaydene Parsons, 23, admit assisting an offender.

Donovan Demetrius - Karl's twin brother - of Marsh Lane, Bristol, and James Ireland, 23, of Richmond Villas, Avonmouth - a work colleague of Karl's - deny the charge.

Matthews again broke down in tears and sobbed as he continued to give his evidence from the witness box and the trial judge, Mr Justice Dingemans, asked whether he wanted to drink some water or use tissues.

He admitted he had interests in threesomes and often searched for "teen" photography but insisted that related to women aged 18.

Matthews denied watching a 17-minute clip found on his laptop, entitled 'virgin teen gets raped in her own house', in which the attacker places his hand over the victim's mouth.

"I wouldn't watch that," he told the jury. "I would have deleted it straight away."

Matthews said files he downloaded often contained images or video files not mentioned in the titles.

"I could have searched 'teen' on the website and downloaded the first 10 to 15 things," he said.

"Once, I know Shauna was there at the time, I was trying to download Puss in Boots. It's a Disney animated thing, like Up but about a cat.

"I downloaded that and obviously when I double checked it was illegal porn and obviously I said to Shauna 'this is not what we were expecting to watch' so we deleted it."

Mr Vaitilingam said 38 of the bookmarked pages related to pornography or escort websites, including 17 teenage sites.

Matthews replied: "Teen on these sites means 18 or fantasy dressing up as a schoolgirl but they have got to be aged 18 to be on the website."

Mr Vaitilingam took Matthews through a series of text and Facebook messages, which the prosecution say is evidence of an interest in kidnapping teenage girls.

Mr Vaitilingam asked him: "Is there any serious intent talking about bringing home pretty schoolgirls?"

Matthews replied: "No, Shauna just wanted to take the mick out of me. There is nothing there that could..."

Taking a long pause, he added: "A couple of time when we've been out somewhere checking out other girls, she would say they looked nice.

"The girl would turn around and Shauna would laugh because from behind I'd think a girl looked 17 or 18 but when she turned round it was obvious she was not.

"Shauna would take the mick because I struggle with people's ages. I once ID'ed a girl for alcohol and it turned out she was 32."

Earlier, Matthews was asked how he felt when police told him blood had been found at Cotton Mill Lane and he then admitted to killing Becky after days of denying all involvement.

"I wasn't able to tell anybody because I didn't want them finding out what actually happened and protecting them from any more grief from them worrying about where she was," Matthews said.

"I got overwhelmed with my emotions and I was conflicted. They deserved to know the truth and have a burial and so they could say goodbye.

"I admitted everything so it would help the police and they knew what happened."

Andrew Langdon QC, representing Hoare, asked Matthews whether he was "sexually interested" in Becky, which he denied.

Mr Langdon asked: "Did you find her sexually attractive?"

Matthews replied: "No."

He also insisted he had told the truth about what happened upstairs in Becky's home on the day she died.

The court heard that Matthews could not explain why he took his girlfriend with him to Becky's house but had been planning his kidnap plan for around two months in order to scare the teenager.

But added: "I didn't tell Shauna because she would have been hurt and shocked. I didn't have a choice to tell her really.

"That was the only way I could protect everybody and stop them finding out."

Matthews admitted he was sexually attracted to teenage girls and sometimes Hoare would catch him admiring them.

Mr Langdon asked Matthews: "Have you always been attracted - even when you got well into your 20s - to teenage girls?"

Matthews replied: "Yes."

Mr Langdon added: "And I mean sexually attracted."

Matthews replied: "Yes. They didn't have to be teenage, they could be older.

"Sometimes she would catch me looking and she would slap me or smack me, not violently, and tell me off for looking."

He admitted he would make comments to Hoare about pretty girls, saying he would "give her a go".

"It is something I would do. She would also point ones out for me as well, kind of jokey. It's the way we were," he said.

Matthews told the jury he would "bottle things up" and when he got "overwhelmed" he would "flip".

Yesterday, Matthews told the court that when he was "cornered like a rat" he would attack, so Mr Langdon asked him: "Who was cornered like a rat when you attacked Becky?"

Matthews replied: "I wasn't cornered. It wasn't attacked, as in violent."

The defendant was asked about punching his stepsister in the mouth as he tried to get her in the suitcase.

"You could class that as an attack ... as more trying to knock her out but then realising I would have to do it really hard and possibly ... however many times, so I couldn't."

Matthews also denied an accusation from Mr Langdon that he was trying to minimise the violence he used on Hoare during their six-year relationship.

Mr Langdon asked Matthews: "When you attacked Shauna you are not in control of yourself. When you attacked Becky were you in control?

He replied: "The punch was obviously to knock her out. It was a reaction of panic because it was not going to plan because I could not get her in the suitcase."

Matthews also told jurors he had a "fear" that Hoare would leave him.

Sean Hammond, representing Ireland, said to Matthews that after deciding he needed to remove Becky's dismembered body from Cotton Mill Lane he turned to Karl Demetrius for help as he knew the police wanted to search his home.

The defendant told the court: "Once I had done what I done, I didn't know what to do. I knew the police were coming."

Matthews said he rang Karl Demetrius - who he had known since they worked together at Domino's Pizza - and offered him £10,000 to "take some packages for a few days" but would need a van.

The prosecution allege that Karl Demetrius, who has admitted assisting an offender, enlisted Ireland to help.

Mr Hammond asked Matthews whether he had ever met Ireland before or spoken to him and he replied he had not.

Matthews said that Ireland, driving his Ford Fiesta, and Karl Demetrius picked him and Hoare up from his girlfriend's mother's home in Southmead on the evening of February 23 and took them home to Cotton Mill Lane.

Matthews said they then went to collect the van from Karl Demetrius and Ireland's workplace in Filton, Bristol.

They then returned to Cotton Mill Lane with Ireland staying downstairs and Matthews and Karl Demetrius going upstairs and loading a suitcase with Becky's remains.

They then loaded up the van and took them to nearby Barton Court, where they were left in a garden shed.

Matthews told the court: "All of the suitcases were done up. The whole point of moving and paying them large amounts of money was for them not to (look)."

Mr Hammond asked: "You told Karl that if anybody asked you had an argument with Shauna and you were moving out for a few days?"

Matthews replied: "That was the cover story if we got pulled over."

Mr Hammond said: "You relied upon Karl to make sure that James understood that because he was your mate?"

Matthews replied: "Yes."

Mr Hammond said: "Everything was being done through Karl because he was your friend."

Matthews replied: "Yes."

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