Joey Carbery: 'Hard to believe how quickly it's all happened'
Young out-half talks about growing up in New Zealand and beating his heroes as he reflects on his meteoric rise
It was only last May when Joey Carbery introduced himself to the wider rugby landscape in Ireland when he steered Clontarf to the All-Ireland League title, beating Cork Constitution in the Aviva Stadium final.
Closer to home, people knew his talents. He'd been tearing it up in his home club Athy underage. Leinster Youths the same. Blackrock College next. The Leinster Sub-Academy and then full Academy would come calling. Indeed he had even played in the Guinness Pro12 before that fateful day in May.
But this May day final was different. It was the culmination of a run of games, a consistent run of games, and of scintillating form, against big men. He was only 20 when he lifted that trophy.
Just over five months later and the Aviva with Clontarf isn't the calling card anymore. Leinster caps. Ireland caps. He is very much on the radar and it doesn't look like he is going to drift off it any time soon.
"It's hard to believe how quickly it has all come about," he says. "It's only a few weeks ago that I was into Carton House for the first time proper and now here I am.
"It's pinch yourself territory but it's like everything else, you need to put it behind you and try to play as well as you can to put yourself in the best position to be selected again."
Before we can let him move on, we have to talk Chicago. There was the Cubs. There was the All Blacks. There was his 21st birthday party. There was the win. There was that figure of eight. Where to begin? Maybe we should begin in Bailey's Beach on New Zealand's North Island.
"I grew up in New Zealand so I grew up watching the All Blacks," he explains. "I went to their games. Dan Carter was my hero and I just loved everything about them. And there I was facing the Haka with Ireland as part of the figure of eight formation in tribute to Anthony Foley. . . it's hard to put into words.
"It was hugely important for us as a team to respect Axel and his memory and then for me it was just a really special moment to be there facing the Haka. I loved every minute of it."
And to win against New Zealand?
"The place was just buzzing and you could see what it meant to some of the older lads," says Carbery. "It was brilliant for us all but some lads had been very close in the past and hadn't got there so you'd be delighted for them.
"It was great to deliver like that for those supporters because the atmosphere and the noise was incredible."
Before the trip back home there were inductions and songs to sing - 90s hit theme tune Friends being his own go-to tune of choice - and there was his 21st celebrations.
"I'm not sure what I would have done had I not been in Chicago but there I was in this beautiful steak house with the whole squad and management and we had a good night," he says.
"I wouldn't have swapped it for the world. Very special memories of a very special week."
Carbery sat out the home All Blacks week and took the chance to catch up on college work - he is studying a three-year degree in Sports and Exercise Management in UCD - and also to take a few days holiday in London with his girlfriend.
"It was needed. Don't get me wrong I'd have loved to have been involved for that game in the Aviva but I had been going for eight or nine weeks of game-time with Leinster and then pre-season before that so it was nice to recharge and then to turn my focus towards the Canada and Australia games and of course the next block of games with Leinster," he says.
So as he turns his attention back towards the RDS and the Dragons, what's the main learning from his time with Ireland?
"Joe Schmidt is very keen on the one per centers, and doing those really well day after day. They all add up so by the time you get to the Saturday you should be able to pull together a performance.
"So I've seen that level of intensity and drive up close and I'd love to get there again so those are the things that I can take away and learn from and keep building."
Leinster are ready to build themselves for the next few months of crucial games.
"We're an ambitious group of players," says Carbery. "We all want to win titles at the end of the season but you can't get lost in that either.
"You have to stay focused on what's next up, and similar to talking about the one per centers, in Leinster we have to build a platform and we have really exciting fixtures coming up. We've trained well this week and we just can't wait to get going at the RDS on Saturday."
With that next-game mentality you dare not look too far down the track, but presumably it will be a different Christmas for the Carbery clan this year?
"Hopefully I'll be involved against Munster on St Stephen's Day so it'll be different to last year and having to keep an eye on the next day's prep," he says. "It's great fun still in our house.
"I've a young brother, Culann, and sister, Ciara, so we still very much enjoy the buzz of it all and kicking back like every family.
"But then it will be time to pack the bag and head to Thomond hopefully."
No extra stuffing or roast spuds for Joey Carbery this year so. How quickly time flies when you're having the time of your life.