Freezing wet fans deserve day in sun
IS it time to change the Ryder Cup dates?
Perhaps by the end of today, if the weather forecast proves as bad as the prophets of gloom suggest, that could be a hot topic for discussion.
Rain, rain and more rain is to pour down from the heavens, they say.
So what's new? Valhalla in 2008, The K Club in 2006, and Valderrama 1997 all suffered from severe weather conditions.
Now we are in Wales and the fear of everyone is that a combination of rain and ever-shortening daylight hours could force the event into a fourth day.
Yesterday some of the walkways were already churning up into mud and wood chips were being spread on the worst areas.
Given the extremely hilly nature of this course, people could be slipping and sliding their way around certain parts of it.
Why should this be so?
Why persist in playing the Ryder Cup at a time of year when it is vulnerable to these conditions?
The amazing fact of it all is the good humour and enthusiasm of the thousands who attend the Ryder Cup every two years on both sides of the Atlantic.
They pay dearly for the privilege to help make the Cup the multi-million cash cow it is for the European Tour and the PGA of America and their organising partners.
Maybe it's time the people in authority at the top thought about finding a way to move the Ryder Cup to a time of year with longer daylight hours and a better chance of some decent weather.
Meanwhile, rookie Peter Hanson has revealed part of Seve's inspirational message to the Europeans. "Go get them so hard that they'll all be caddies in the future." Now that's fighting talk.