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Sam Smith: A telling interview with the multiple Grammy winner from the Independent.ie archives

Sam Smith
Sam Smith
Ed Power

Ed Power

Ed Power chatted to British star Sam Smith about love, success, fame, and the pitfalls

Sam Smith's big dirty chuckle is a thing of wonder. He deploys it sparingly – but every time he does, it stops you in your tracks. Independent.ie discovers this when we ask if he can remember where he was the day he went to number one with mega-smash La La La last summer. All of a sudden he's doubled over, cackling like a fish-wife.

 "On the toilet," he says, with a thigh slapping laugh (seriously – he actually slaps his tight). "On the toilet! My sister was downstairs in the kitchen, screaming 'you're top of the charts, you're top of the charts'. It was quite surreal. I was drunk, which probably contributed ."

Strictly speaking, Smith was merely an accessory to La La La, an r'n b thumper credited to producer Naughty Boy (Smith is listed as 'featured' artist). As with his earlier Disclosure hook-up Latch, however, the tune is all about Smith – his soulful vocals, the way he turns a meat and veg outing into something sad and thrilling and strange.

Singer Sam Smith arrives at the 57th annual Grammy Awards in Los Angeles, California February 8, 2015.
Singer Sam Smith arrives at the 57th annual Grammy Awards in Los Angeles, California February 8, 2015.

"It was peculiar. I was working in a bar the week La La La came out," he says. "To see it go up and up and up was... odd. I had no idea I could ever find myself in the position I am in now. It's weird, looking back. Actually, it's weird looking at where I am today."

Smith, as if you don't know (you do, of course), is the hot new face in British music. Winner of the BBC 'Sound Of' poll, a reliable barometer of arriving talent, and recipient of the Brits Critics Choice Award, he's the anointed up and comer – the debutante the entire UK record industry hopes/suspects/believes will shortly be headlining arenas and moving product by the tonne.

There are, it's worth pointing out, a number of dissenters. As news of his Sound Of nomination broke, sectors of the media, in particular, could hardly contain their guffaws. The writer who described Smith's coronation as a 'joke' was speaking for the substantial which has started to weary of the endless parade of sweet-voiced soul men upon which British music, broke and desperate, appears to be hedging its future. If ever there was a case of the backlash over-taking the hype, here it was.

"I couldn't give two shits," says the singer. "My name is Sam Smith. I've been through a few things in my life. I'm written about them. If you don't like, don't listen – don't buy my songs."

Written down, it sounds like a proper diss. In fact, Smith is such a sweet young man he can't even deliver a smackdown to the cheeky journos writing him off (already, before his record is even here), without breaking into a broad grin. That's the way he is – a big, huggable pop teddy, with silly Jedward hair and an endless repertoire of vaguely frazzled smiles.

We're meeting at his label's London headquarters, which sounds incredibly glamorous but is rather less so in the flesh (the HQ is above a Cafe Nero and next door to a news-agent). The topic of conversation is supposed to Smith's soon to be huge career – depending on who you listen to he is either the new Amy Winehouse, this year's Emeli Sande or the spiritual successor to Boy George. Some 'pundits' reckon he might be all three in one, though they probably haven't listen to his LP, In The Lonely Hour, which proves far bleaker than those teaser hits with Naughty Boy and Disclosure might suggest.

As it turns out, Smith isn't much interested in talking about the parade of fabulousness his life is soon to be come (unless In The Lonely Hour fails to take off, in which case he'll surely be back slopping out pints by end of year). He'd prefer discuss his big broken heart  – the subject of practically every song he's written across the past 18 months. 

"I'm brutally honest. A bit TOO brutally honest, " he says. "My album is about a person I fell in love –someone who didn't love me back. I've never been in a relationship. What happened is purely unrequited. To talk about that , especially if you are alone, was difficult."

All mine - Sam Smith proudly shows off his four Grammys (AP)
All mine - Sam Smith proudly shows off his four Grammys (AP)

His one-way crush became all consuming. Even as his career rocketed off the launch pad, it was all he could think about. The world was his for the seizing and he just wanted to cry in his bedroom.

"I was in love with the person. Nothing physically ever took place. I was sure they loved me – not in the way I wanted them to. I pursued them 100 per cent. It was painful. If there's an upside it's that I was writing. I guess I got a record out of it, even if that only increased the hurt. "

Garlanded with awards, Smith might at first glance pass for an overnight success. Actually he's worked at this half his life. He signed with his first manager aged 13 and went through a further dozen or so . Some of the partings were amicable, several were not.  It's fair to say he is no starry eyed ingenue.

"I've had some experiences where the managers were fucking horrific. It was an eye-opener. I think it benefitted from it. Very little was happening with my career. Then, one day, I wrote a honest song about the music industry . That was the song that got me signed. It was the first time I had sung completely from the heart, put my feelings out there."

Smith was born in 1992 and grew up in Cambridgeshire, north east of London. A gifted singer from childhood, he studied jazz and piano at school and, at 17, placed third in the prestigious 'From Twelve to Twenty' talent contest. However, his charmed existed was rocked off his axis a year later as, out of the blue, his parents separated. The pain of the split had a lasting impact

" They are best friends now. They did it in a lovely way. Subconsciously it affected me. It definitely got to me, yeah."

For those who know Smith only for Latch and La La La, it is fair to state his solo releases will come as something as an upset. The party boy is gone, replaced by a sob-wracked soul crooner. Does he worry that casual fans may expect a party record and walk away underwhelmed? He shrugs.

Sam Smith accepts the award for best new artist at the 57th annual Grammy Awards in Los Angeles, California February 8, 2015. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson (UNITED STATES - Tags: ENTERTAINMENT) (GRAMMYS-SHOW)
Sam Smith accepts the award for best new artist at the 57th annual Grammy Awards in Los Angeles, California February 8, 2015. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson (UNITED STATES - Tags: ENTERTAINMENT) (GRAMMYS-SHOW)

"It's my voice. I should have the right to sing what I want to sing.. If I wake up and want to sound like Joni Mitchell, I'll do that. If I wake and want to sound like Beyonce, I'll do that.

"I've had so many shit jobs in my life – cleaning glasses, cleaning toilets. Now I have an amazing job. I don't want to have any restrictions. I don't want to be told what kind of music I can or can't make. I'll do whatever I want ."

Sam Smith's new single, Money On My Mind, is out now. The album In The Lonely Hour is released in May.

Sam Smith performs
Sam Smith performs "Stay With Me" with Mary J. Blige at the 57th annual Grammy Awards in Los Angeles, California February 8, 2015.

Say It Again Sam: Smith On…

…Winning The 'Sound Of' prize

At first I didn't worry about it. The closer it got, and the more of a possibility it became, I wanted. Purely because it would help the music. I want the best possible platform to reach people.

…Early Struggles With Stage Fright

I did musical theatre from a young age and had always been given stage direction. To go from that to suddenly being up there, without having someone tell you what to say, was difficult. I found it tough.

…Writing His Debut Album

I panicked. I didn't know what to sing about. Then, I thought -' hold on a second 'I have been in love'. So I'll write about that. The message of the album is that unrequited love is as strong as 'real' love.

…The Dangers of Fame

The thing that wrecks your head is when people come out of the wood-work - individuals who weren't very nice to you and now what you be your friend because you've had a bit of exposure. I've had a little bit of that already. It messed with you.

Sam Smith with his award for favourite pop/rock male artist
Sam Smith with his award for favourite pop/rock male artist

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